Originally Posted by gr8scape
Before I would have bought the car, I would have insisted that the dealer supply the key and the manuals. I would have walked away from the deal if they said they couldn't do it. To me that's like buying the car and only having three wheels and the dealer saying you have to buy the fourth. If they want to sell the car they will supply the key and the manuals also.
Thanks gr8scape. Yes, I know what you are saying. I had the same thinking. However, we really got it at a great price, and I mean GREAT! That's why I took it without extra keys or manuals!
BTW, In the process I learned that ALL dealers are FIXING PRICES for used cars. No question in my mind. We had a limited budget and did not want to spend more. Over the six month period we were looking at the car, we visited 3 dealers (used car) and got a "lowest price" quote from all 3 which were within $12 (that's twelve dollars) from one another - I kid you not. ($13.2K being the highest $13,188 the lowest.) All of them were saying "that's what we have in the car" - Yeah, right. If you run a carfax you can see the cars moved from city to city as dealers buy and sell cars at "dealer auctions", and there is no way they will sell it to you without making a profit.
That said, even if I spend $400 for a new key, I am still way below what I paid for the car - and it's in a great shape, alloy wheels, new tires, all new fluids... just minus the key. Manuals were $30 from toyota with shipping (with a nice documents pouch, which I really did not HAVE to purchase, otherwise $15.)
I just don't want to pay them when I know they are ripping us off. I guess, it's a matter of principle. I'd rather give $$ to Red Cross or UNICEF.
Thanks again for your reply!