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Hello! Just purchased 2008 xB that was traded in to a GM dealer. Came with only one pretty beat-up key. No spares were available. Some idiot brought only one key in when traded the car (and no service manuals either!). I called the dealer yesterday about getting a spare - was told it would be in the neighborhood of $400 to get a spare key cut.

I did see you can get online key blanks for ~$125-$150, not programmed of course. Has anyone done this and who do you recommend do the key programming other than dealer? I will call them to see if they would program a key I bring in. Many posts also say to take it to a locksmith... I'll call tomorrow to check if this is possible here in southern Ohio. Anyone there has any experience with this?

Also, there were blanks without the remote for $12-$15. Can these be programmed to start the car? I just need a spare in case we lock ourselves out.

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Before I would have bought the car, I would have insisted that the dealer supply the key and the manuals. I would have walked away from the deal if they said they couldn't do it. To me that's like buying the car and only having three wheels and the dealer saying you have to buy the fourth. If they want to sell the car they will supply the key and the manuals also.

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Before I would have bought the car, I would have insisted that the dealer supply the key and the manuals. I would have walked away from the deal if they said they couldn't do it. To me that's like buying the car and only having three wheels and the dealer saying you have to buy the fourth. If they want to sell the car they will supply the key and the manuals also.
Thanks gr8scape. Yes, I know what you are saying. I had the same thinking. However, we really got it at a great price, and I mean GREAT! That's why I took it without extra keys or manuals!

BTW, In the process I learned that ALL dealers are FIXING PRICES for used cars. No question in my mind. We had a limited budget and did not want to spend more. Over the six month period we were looking at the car, we visited 3 dealers (used car) and got a "lowest price" quote from all 3 which were within $12 (that's twelve dollars) from one another - I kid you not. ($13.2K being the highest $13,188 the lowest.) All of them were saying "that's what we have in the car" - Yeah, right. If you run a carfax you can see the cars moved from city to city as dealers buy and sell cars at "dealer auctions", and there is no way they will sell it to you without making a profit.

That said, even if I spend $400 for a new key, I am still way below what I paid for the car - and it's in a great shape, alloy wheels, new tires, all new fluids... just minus the key. Manuals were $30 from toyota with shipping (with a nice documents pouch, which I really did not HAVE to purchase, otherwise $15.)

I just don't want to pay them when I know they are ripping us off. I guess, it's a matter of principle. I'd rather give $$ to Red Cross or UNICEF.

Thanks again for your reply!





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I have the same problem, buying my XB used with only one key. The blanks without a remote are a common key and you could find them at almost any hareware store 10-15$ and will work just fine as lock out key and start the car no problem. As for the blank keys with remotes, I have seen them on ebay for 40 to 80 $ , but they all state you will have to go to dealership to have them programed, not sure what a dealership would charge if you brought your own blank though. I pray to god I don't lose the one key have. As for the dealership that wants 400.00 don't go there for anything else, they sound like a big time rip off (wihich a good number of Toyota dealships seem to be). I would hope someone out there would know the trick to programming the remote keys and share it here.
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Programming the remote, from Scionlife.com...

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http://scionlife.com/forums/showthre...te+programming


er, no.. still looking, this is for something else...

OK, found this advice in a post...
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Also the alarm and key programing I believe is the same as most other newer toyota/scions. I found directions on toyotanation with step by step directions on how to program a new key and erase old keys from its memory. Its late and I've had one to many vodka redbulls to find it right now, but it just popped up on gogle when I found it. G'luck ad hope some dumb dealership doesnt try to bend ya over.

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OK, maybe,, one person chimed in and said this works. It's the procedure for 1st Gen xb.

http://scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5977


If you DO find out, plese get back to the forum so anyone who is looking can know. Thanks.

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Thanks everyone for your posts! This is a little confusing for me, so here is another question:

Does 2008 xB have an immobilizer in the key? That is, if I order a blank key from ebay, or get one from the hardware store, a simple one without the remote (like old car keys used to be), can I just get it cut at the said hardware store and it would just work without some kind of programming?

When we talk here about programming the key with the remote door/panic buttons, are we programming it to operate the doors remotely AND start the car (because of the chip in it) OR just to open the doors...?? Are there 2 steps to this (doors and immobilizer) or is there no immobilizer and we are programming the door lock/unlock function only?

Thanks! I will call a different dealer and a locksmith tomorrow and let you know what I find out.




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Sweet link. Thanks
I also noticed a ebay listing where the seller state. "Free coding instructions are provided upon request for this remote". So one would only have to pay to have the key cut 1 to 3 $ and program themselves which is awsome.
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The key does not have a immobilizer or chip if you will. I got two keys cut Ace Harware for mine. Of course no Remote though.
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