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Thanks! BrickPig to the rescue again. By the way your LEDs everywhere are awesome. Great electrical work.

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I replied there basically saying that sounds like bunk unless your LED replacements actually use more power. Right?
I've had my flasher running two pairs of led strip taillights per side in the rear with stock filament bulbs up front, all four stock filament bulbs, and currently one pair of strip taillights in the rear with stock front bulbs. All with no issue at all.

The one thing you have to adjust to is that it takes an extra 1/4-1/2 second for the bulbs to start flashing, so signal before changing lanes.

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I've had my flasher running two pairs of led strip taillights per side in the rear with stock filament bulbs up front, all four stock filament bulbs, and currently one pair of strip taillights in the rear with stock front bulbs. All with no issue at all.

The one thing you have to adjust to is that it takes an extra 1/4-1/2 second for the bulbs to start flashing, so signal before changing lanes.
Ok thanks, Greg, good to know. I'll report back once I get everything and try out the all-4 LED blinker replacements with new flasher.

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Question about the delay when turning on your turn signals... with the flasher relay you'll get a a second delay till it turns back to white. When you don't have the flasher relay you'll get one side that will turn white and the other side will be turned off. Same when you first turn on your parking lights you'll get a slight delay before they turn on.
Every time I turn on my headlights, I do the parking lights first to make sure they turn on then my HID's.
Flasher relay is the way to go. LED Mod had the right bulbs for me. I had aftermarket switchbacks bulbs before and they didn't work with the flasher relay cause of how the bulbs were made. I have switched my rear tail lights to led bulbs yet.

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Ok, I have to report back with my success now that I have a minute, I haven't been on here for a while. I confirmed the replacement flasher relays work perfectly in my 2012.

I got this one from Amazon/iJDMTOY
Amazon.com: 8-Pin Flashing Speed Adjustable Electronic LED Flasher Assy Relay Fix For Lexus Scion Toyota LED Turn Signal Light Bulbs: Automotive Amazon.com: 8-Pin Flashing Speed Adjustable Electronic LED Flasher Assy Relay Fix For Lexus Scion Toyota LED Turn Signal Light Bulbs: Automotive

It's the adjustable one, but they have the regular one too. I figured I'd get that one so that I don't get stuck with a blink rate I don't like or something. It works as advertised. Once I got the hang of removing the plastic panel it was pretty easy.

So I went to DiodeDynamics and swapped the backup light LEDs I got that I didn't like for another set of blinker LEDs for the rear blinkers - I was pretty happy with the front ones and I decided not to go with switchbacks for various reasons.

When I got the chance, I installed the new rear blinker LEDs. They hyperblinked of course. So then I swapped out the flasher I mentioned above - took a little finger wrenching in a tight spot. Problem solved! Adjustable blink, lol. At that point I pulled out the resistors (and my nice mounting and electrical tape job) I had put in for the front blinkers. Thankfully they were little splicer things that didn't actually cut the wire - big help. Everything worked great, and no hot resistors. So I have 4 11watt LED blinker bulbs running on that flasher. Now the replacement flasher says max 150 watt so you might have to watch it if you go really bright. DiodeDynamics for instance has an 80 watt option for their brightest blinker LEDs so you'd be going over the limit with just two of those.

I kept up with the DiodeDynamics guys and said I'd let them know how it goes, so I told them about the success and they said thanks and they'd pass it on. Hopefully they update their product for the 2011+ xB now to allow for the flasher option.

I really like the instant-on-off of these, probably like any LEDs and like the side mirror markers. Also, you don't see the yellow "egg yolk" there anymore so especially for the front of the car it looks cleaner, more silver and clear. I really didn't think I'd care about that at first but I do notice it now. There is a slight delay when you flip the blinker - the blinkers light immediately, but the first blink is slightly longer, no big deal at all. The LEDs I got are subjectively maybe 50% brighter than stock. They stick out further into the reflector housing so they probably don't reflect as nicely as the little bulbs did, but the brightness more than makes up for it. Plus there is a projector over the LEDs on the end of the thing which definitely helps.

Next up, brake light LEDs probably, hehe. Instant on/off will be good for those.

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Nice one! I'm still on a quest to find a nice led parking light to match my 5000k hid low beam. I need pure white, no hint of blue, no hint of yellow. So hard to find.


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Hey thanks.

Actually, funny you say that, I just got some LEDs for the parking lights from Amazon iJDMTOY, here-
Amazon.com: iJDMTOY 2W High Power 360-Degree Shine 168 194 2825 T10 LED Bulbs For Parking City Lights, Xenon White: Automotive Amazon.com: iJDMTOY 2W High Power 360-Degree Shine 168 194 2825 T10 LED Bulbs For Parking City Lights, Xenon White: Automotive

Here these are probably the same ones on the actual iJDMTOY site-
168 194 2825 2W High Power LED Bulbs For License Plate, Interior Lights

They don't say the color temp, just Xenon White.

I have some pictures too so I'll post to show you and you can make your own judgement. This is with my stock headlights. For the beginning pictures, passenger side is with LED parking light, driver side is stock. I took them back out for now since they looked so different. They are a great brightness though, they won't overshadow my blinkers.

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Looks like what I've got already. I might try some warm white ones to see if it's closer.


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Looks like what I've got already. I might try some warm white ones to see if it's closer.
Ok, so these are too blue for 5000K HIDs? Good to know. I'm thinking 5000K myself on HIDs (whiter than stock but not bluish I hope, hopefully still plenty bright). How do you like them? Do you have any photos somewhere?

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Not a very good example as they look pretty close in this photo. They look more like my drl color in person.



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