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this part is so expensive, I just emailed TRDsparks.com and is 920$plus shipping nooo wayyy
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Just did this with mine. I bought a Prius C radio with the Entune module off ebay for under $300. Sold the head unit and installed the module on 2015 XB's Pioneer head unit. Works great except for the weather app.

I just got hooked up with an FRS head unit with the Scion Bespoke module. I will play with it and see which I want keep.
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Just did this with mine. I bought a Prius C radio with the Entune module off ebay for under $300. Sold the head unit and installed the module on 2015 XB's Pioneer head unit. Works great except for the weather app.

I just got hooked up with an FRS head unit with the Scion Bespoke module. I will play with it and see which I want keep.
I need to see this; I hate the bespoke module's interface, and I hear the entune module is a lot better, but I haven't seen it first hand (didn't know if it was compatible with the 2015 xB head unit). Any pictures?

Edit: looks like it definitely does: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39071

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None yet. I guess I do a video or pics. I just flashed the 5.2 firmware, they took out Bing search and I still don't have yelp but I did get Slacker which I like better than Pandora. The interface is a little slow and clunky. I can't figure out what the Etune phone app is supposed to do, ir just seems there to gum up the works and make data connections flakey. I just use a DUN connection over Bluetooth and all my devices seem to work well with that.

One down side people mention, if you are using someone else's vin on Entune, after a month Toyota will cut it off. I have only been using 2 weeks so I can't comment. I do have the vin from the car the radio came from but it is just as to go online to an insurance auction site and grab a vin from a totaled car and register.
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Just installed an official FRS Headunit that came from the dealer with the Scion Nav system. It's an ebay junkyard purchase. You would laugh if you saw how many tamper proof stickers and paint on the screws they put on it, guess the got ebay screwed before. I'm going to play with it for a week or two. So far I like Entune better. AHA fuel function sucks and nearby leaves a lot to be desired. Seems like the Scion system has more POI icons on the map. I'll probably will turn most of them off. Over all, there is not a lot thats different between the systems. Entune has a few apps that Toyota installs that tend to be clunky and slow because of the slow processors. Scion depends on AHA app which is made by Harmon, the makers of the unit. The Nav and voice operations are very similar.

If you want factory Nav, go to Ebay and hunt down a headunit that includes the nav unit. I seem to find better deals on the combo. People selling the Nav unit by itself seem to charge the same as getting both together, May as well get both and try to resell the headunit by itself to get some cash back. In my opinion just get which ever pops up first, AHA or Entune. Yes I think Entune is better but not by a heck of a lot.

I think I am going to swing by my dealer tomorrow and see if I can get an update for the Scion Nav unit. I tried doing an update with my Entune 5.2 software but it doesn't work. So there is no quick and easy way to convert the AHA to Entune.
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Hi all,

I just got the PT546-00140 head unit but for what I understand, I will need a BeSpoke or Entune addition plus a gps antenna addition to be able to have nav on it?

I am about to mount it tonight on my xB 2012.

Thanks!
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Just installed an official FRS Headunit that came from the dealer with the Scion Nav system. It's an ebay junkyard purchase. You would laugh if you saw how many tamper proof stickers and paint on the screws they put on it, guess the got ebay screwed before. I'm going to play with it for a week or two. So far I like Entune better. AHA fuel function sucks and nearby leaves a lot to be desired. Seems like the Scion system has more POI icons on the map. I'll probably will turn most of them off. Over all, there is not a lot thats different between the systems. Entune has a few apps that Toyota installs that tend to be clunky and slow because of the slow processors. Scion depends on AHA app which is made by Harmon, the makers of the unit. The Nav and voice operations are very similar.

If you want factory Nav, go to Ebay and hunt down a headunit that includes the nav unit. I seem to find better deals on the combo. People selling the Nav unit by itself seem to charge the same as getting both together, May as well get both and try to resell the headunit by itself to get some cash back. In my opinion just get which ever pops up first, AHA or Entune. Yes I think Entune is better but not by a heck of a lot.
You're forgetting one major thing... the Entune unit connects via USB to an Android or iPhone and uses cellular data to provide up to date map info including traffic, weather, etc., while the Aha unit does not (you get what you get from the original map data). It connects to the app but will not update anything via cellular. The only downside of the entune unit is that it turns the interface blue to match the Toyota interior (vs orange/red for Scion).

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I think I am going to swing by my dealer tomorrow and see if I can get an update for the Scion Nav unit. I tried doing an update with my Entune 5.2 software but it doesn't work. So there is no quick and easy way to convert the AHA to Entune.
I did a huge amount of research into this, and there is no direct way to update aha to entune. The version number would need to be changed (that seems to be the only distinguishing marker) and the installation is hashed and signed, so you can't change it without the unit rejecting the update as invalid.
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Hi all,

I just got the PT546-00140 head unit but for what I understand, I will need a BeSpoke or Entune addition plus a gps antenna addition to be able to have nav on it?

I am about to mount it tonight on my xB 2012.

Thanks!
Correct - you need the module, Y cable, mounting brackets, and a GPS antenna.

Here are the modules you can use:
  • PT296-00140 = Scion Aha + Navigation
  • PT296-47130 = Toyota Entune + Navigation (newer version)
  • PT296-47120 = Toyota Entune + Navigation (older version)
  • PT296-47121 = Toyota Navigation only

Other parts:
  • The Y cable (if you don't get it with the module) is PT296-47120-AB and runs


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  • The GPS antenna can be generic. I bought this one for $15, but you can get them for $8-10 from China if you're willing to wait a month.
  • Mounting brackets should come with the module, but they're just two metal square pieces with holes to go in the side of the radio and side of the nav module. Super easy to make yourself out of plastic or metal pieces.
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Thank you for the part numbers and all the info!

Mounting the head unit was a breeze and I re-used the brackets that my original radio had. I will look into the modules, as I would love to have the rest of the features for my car.
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How do you get map updates for the Navigation unit after its been installed ?
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