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Alright. We'll see how this fares, but I still have my doubts. One of the reasons I haven't messed with mine at all.
Replacing the axle will effect nothing. They come from the factory with slight negative camber dialed in, so the car doesn't handle so poorly. Just like the new Fiat 500s.
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k! at least we have a forum member that's had the procedure done. hopefully she'll report any adverse effects.

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I thought I had a friend that had Les Schwab put shims in hers. (Wow that sounds bad) but she can't recall. (Sounds even worse)
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u betcha!

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Hey guys, I've been a member at other Scoin forums for quite some time, but I had to join this forum to respond to this thread.

I'm a certified Toyota tech, and I drive an '09 xB. It's long overdue, but I'm in the process of playing with my rear alignment right now. I've worn out a couple of sets of tires(my last set were Michelins), and now it's time to fix it since I'm about to put another set of Michelins on.

My rear alignment was perfect when I bought mine, new in '08. All that changed when I installed Hotchkis lowering springs. Now, I've got about .8 deg of total toe in the rear. If you know anything about alignments, that's a ton. As it is, my xB wears the rear tires out before it does front.

I specialize in steering & suspension, tires, and alignments. In my experience, these rear torsion beams are almost never defective...unless the car has been wrecked. The alignment tech has to make sure to pull the car onto the alignment rack perfectly straight. About a 20ft straight is ideal, and most guys won't(or can't due to space constraints) make the effort to do that. This causes false alignment readings as the suspension can be in a bind.

Basically, when lowered, the beam pivots upward. This causes the factory negative camber to become positive toe. Replacing the beam will rarely fix the problem, and it WILL NOT fix it if you've got lowering springs.

At our dealer, we don't deal with rear shims, but I'm trying to find out for sure which ones fit. I really don't want to tear it apart on my day off and find out the shims I've got won't work.
Sorry. I know this is a old thread but here to goes. I have a 2005 scion xb. I've had it since it was new. i took it to get 4 new tires and the guy at the shop told me that I needed a right rear shim kit and they couldn't align the front or the back until this was done. The whop i went to is BIG BRAND TIRE in Santa Barbara, CA. they wanted to charge me $50.00 for the shim kit, $70 to install it & $100 to do the alignment and all 4 wheels. Is this correct? i feel like the guy at the tire shop looked at me like if I was made out of $ MONEY $ why since 2005 do i need this now.
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For Santa Barbara prices that is about right. Less if you go down to Ventura or order the kit online.

Most likely the reason it hasn't come up before is that most places only do a two wheel alignment for xBs because the rear is not adjustable at all from the factory. If you are lowered then yes the rear probably is out of alignment, most likely your toe and camber are what is out. Just the nature of lowering cars with torsion beam rears.

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For Santa Barbara prices that is about right. Less if you go down to Ventura or order the kit online.

Most likely the reason it hasn't come up before is that most places only do a two wheel alignment for xBs because the rear is not adjustable at all from the factory. If you are lowered then yes the rear probably is out of alignment, most likely your toe and camber are what is out. Just the nature of lowering cars with torsion beam rears.
Thank you for your reply. no, I'm not lowered. i ridding stock. does it still matter?
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Not being lowered makes it a little weird I would get it up on a lift and see if there is something bent under there. Or just have the front end aligned if you haven't been having any wear issues. It can be aligned by itself.

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If you have get done the alignment from the dealers, haven't you asked about its warranty? If not then it is your fault. Now the best course of action for you is to have a meeting with dealer head and tell him all the details. He might consider you and help you in the matter. Good Luck .
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If it helps, it's been many, many months on my 1/64 shims in the rear; alignment is dead on (with NF210 springs) and brake wear has not been a problem at all.

Plus, you know, it's like 50 cents and an hour of work to do it.

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