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Aloha, as some of you know, I was having some work done to the XB before it went to las Vegas for the SEMA show.

This is some of the changes that are taking place as we speak.

The 2Crave 20 inch wheels are now on, the wrap is fully complete. the Hawaiian Flag is now on the roof.
whats left is, the newly designed Hawaiian tribal graphic designs need to be put on (they're dong that right at this moment I'm typing this) the postal logo with the Hawaiian flare is going on today, and the new back window postal logo will be ging on was well.
the words on the side on the doors "Hawaiian
Express Truck"
will be put on tonight also.

I had them do the spoilers in a different shade of blue so they will stand out a little better then it being the exact some color, a little more contrast.

the car will be on its last phase of its voyage to SEMA tomorrow night and will be checked in at 8 AM sunday morning.




 

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Thats crazy amazing!
 

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WOW!
It's . . . BLUE?!
The color change does surprise me, though it looks quite cool. The lighter/mid blue with the darker blue, red, and white graphics is NICE! That really works and the dark blue in the logos tie in the same blue of the wing(lets) nicely.
 

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Oh, and I !LOVE! the flag!

More Bs should have flags on the roof . . .
 

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Mahalo nui loa guys, I'm glad you guys apprve of the changes I had planned for it.

Here;s the last of the updates for today. its complete mostly, only things left are my sponsor logos on the hood, and the blue back piece window eagle logo, then it will be on the road heading to vegas sometime tomorrow afternoon.

 

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HP that flag is awesome.... I got some hawaiian love on my rukus...



Shitty pic but it's off fb....
 

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MORE FLAGS ON ROOVES!
(Proper plural for roof, even if "roofs" is replacing it in actual usage)
 

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Mahalo guys,

I am so glad you approve of the changes I had planned for the XB.

Cductn, Nice for you to rep Hawaii. You dont see many of those around. You see a lot of New York and Texas around, but not Hawaii.

Funny thing guys, this lady in the club I'm a apart of (Team scion-eyed San Antonio) asked me "why do you have a British flag on your Hawaiian Time XB? I replied back to her, you poor thing you. then i gave her the run down why our flag resembles the British flag. I explained to her About Captain Cook being from Great Britan and all that. :cheers:
 

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As I recall, it is a (intentional) mix of these:

and

-A mis-reading of the early US flag, made by the French for John Paul Jones & recorded in many period flag reference guides as the "American Flag"/"United States Flag"
The Hawaiians, while a fully independent kingdom/empire purposely mixed the British and US flags, their main allies.
I LOVE the resultant flag
1795-1900

Then:
1900-today (became US state in 1959)



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"Tartan Jack"
 

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As I recall, it is a (intentional) mix of these:

and

-A mis-reading of the early US flag, made by the French for John Paul Jones & recorded in many period flag reference guides as the "American Flag"/"United States Flag"
The Hawaiians, while a fully independent kingdom/empire purposely mixed the British and US flags, their main allies.
I LOVE the resultant flag
1795-1900

Then:
1900-today (became US state in 1959)



Vexiologist,
"Tartan Jack"
Tartan, bra, you never cease to amaze me. :cheers:
 

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On the flags . . .
Note the stripe number changed . . . 9 to 8. Other than the 8 representing the 8 main islands, I'm not sure why there were 9 before.

Edit: Looks like 9, 7, and 8 all represent different ways of counting the islands.
8- main inhabited islands Hawaii Island, Maui, Kahoolawe, Lanai, Molokai, Oahu, Kauai, Niihau,
9- all the larger islands-> Hawaii Island, Maui, Kahoolawe, Lanai, Molokai, Oahu, Kauai, Niihau, and Nihoa. (list from Wiki-to get spellings correct)
7- not counting either
Kahoolawe (no fresh water, so no real inhabitants) or Nilhau (privately owned since 1864, as purchased FROM the Kingdom of Hawaii)
 

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Well, I wasn't quite right.
It went from 9, to 7, then 8.

The 1900 was when "protectorship" shifted to fully under the US, rather than a mix of US and UK. The kingdom officially ended in 1917, at the queen's death. But, many don't count 1900-1917 as a real kingdom, as Hawaii was officially a US Territory (even with a nominal monarch).
The red-X british flag was changed in 1843?
The "modern" version seems to date to 1845.

Here is a "decent" flag history of Hawaii:
United States of America

As for any earlier designs (like the red, yellow, and green one), I am still looking for any early real references.
Looking up more info after the last post, I didn't realize the controversy of the dating of the Hawaiian flag, and the issues over when elements changed and whether there was an early alternate to the red, white, and blue one. I did know there had been subtle changes, but couldn't remember the timing.


On The British flag, there was originally the English and Scottish flags, that were merged with the unification of the kingdoms to the United Kingdom in 1707 (with controversy of which cross was "broken" by the other (the English won). The red "X' was added in 1901, as the "Cross of St Patrick" representing the assumption of Ireland into the untied nation of "Great Britain" (meaning the whole/larger British Isles under one, single government). The "place of honor" was given to Scotland, as it's St Andrews cross was further defaced by the red of the Cross of St George. So, the red X is offset, with the top, hoist corner having the red on the bottom edge and Scotland's X on top.
Even today, there is controversy over the British flag. Some what the red "x" gone, others want it changed entirely, while others want the kingdom dissolved back into separate governments.

I KNEW the earlier, pre-1801, British flag HAD to be the original one on the Hawaiian flag, but wasn't sure when they "updated" it.


What can I say, I find flags FASCINATING! What else that is of little actual, material value is praised and valued close to life itself?
Originally, the "flag-bearer," a position of great honor, was one where a soldier would but down their gun/sword/spear/hammer and charge into battle bearing only a stick-and-fabric. And to-this-day, capturing your enemy's flag is a major battle turning point (spawning the modern game).
Plus, it is a graphic representation of a society, movement, or group. The meaning is interesting, as it the value placed upon it.

"Flags are cool."
 
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