Can any of us disagree? I cannot! What is Scion? Is it tuner cars or practical hatchbacks? Is it cheap college cars or a rear-wheel-drive import coupe? Is it the iQ microcar or the hulking SUV-like xB? Is it young people or old people? Nobody knows! Not even Toyota itself.quoted from Aaron Robinson of C&D said:Scion is a brand conceived in a focus group.... It can claim no pedigree, no history. ...When you buy a Scion, you buy into something akin to a second-year MBA’s class project on ways to penetrate the youth market....
I guess I just agreed with you, but only the xD has the fuel economy to compete, and the Hondia Fit is a better car. I still blame Toyota's refusal to give the xB the 6-speed transmissions from the tC. Why should a Corolla Wagon get just 22/28MPG?...most in [the family car] segment wouldn't even THINK of looking at one unless one of us TELLS them to do so.
TartanJack, I'm with you on the mishandling of the brand and our xB, but I find myself completely agreeing the the C&D author here. It's not just that Toyota mishandled their new brand; it's that the brand has no substance, no mission, even no ambition. Can any of us disagree? I cannot! What is Scion?
I totally agree in the beginning I feel scions where inexpensive cars made for the younger generation to buy and have fun with. What was an xb when they first came out 13000 Brand new? Kids parents or younger adults could afford it. It was definitely something not many older people wanted. The tc was a bargain for a sports car as well and it still is rather cheap for what you get compared to other cars but th price has gone up quite a bit. Now let's check out the IQ I think it's a cool little funky car but when I go to the dealership and see a 16-17 thousand dollar price tag I scratch my head. Seems to high for me. Scion was about affordability for the younger age. I look for the younger age. What you said about colors is right. I loved the xb first gen. The release were awesome. It took mr quite some time to accept the 2nd gen n fall n love. N to commit to buying one all it took was me to see the first add of that bright off the wall color with a nice body kit and some great looking rims. I was researching them after I saw the rs 8.0 and a week or two later I had one in my driveway. Anyway I think scion has changed dramatically as a car company and once they became hot n started selling a lot of cars. It was time for them to jack up prices and make the cars looks reach out to more than just the younger generation. And to me that was a big mistake.Just look at the colors they offer! A younger buyer wants some flashy colors, not white, silver, black, pastel blue, etc. How about some bright greens or yellows to stand out and get your attention.
More bright colors should be STOCK!
So true. We just finished residing our house from the standard boring brown to a English Wedgewood (Blue). So much better.If you stop to notice, it isn't just the auto industry. I often look at new subdivisions in my area (there are MANY) and most every house is white or some shade of tan/sepia/beige. I attribute that to the advent of vinyl siding. You can't change the color of your house every few years with a coat of paint so they make colors that will appeal (at least not offend) anyone.
Don't you think the same is probably true of the auto industry? Why be stuck with a few bold colors that are harder to sell, when you can always get someone to buy an unobtrusive silver/black/white?
Not that I am saying it's ok though! I like bold colors or colors that are different from most other cars. I love my super red rs6! :cheers:
I think your situation is a little different though. As you have stated several times in various threads, colors like silver and white make great base colors for modding. (Painters don't generally start with a neon green canvas. They use white.) You don't drive just a plain silver xB. You've added reds and blacks and it looks great and unique.My house is brick with red shutters . . .
I like color.
(The silver was the best option for my original plan to repaint mine green or blue. But, the economy and job issues intervened and I can't afford my planned paint. I figured the exposed silver parts in the engine bay would just look "metal" . . . )
Absolutely true. Unfortunately this issue is not just at Scion, but across the whole industry. The car buyer is drowning in a sea of shades of silver, tans and earth tones.
Out of boredom one day, I sat on my porch and made a list of Silver or Shades of Silver cars that went buy. It was shockingly high, about 60%. Try it for yourself the next time you're out on the road. (Include shades of Brown while you're at it.)