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WOW...that was easy. Even easier than my 2500 HD, as the light setup is very similar, having the bulb easily reachable.

Here is the kicker.................

I don't have pics yet, but the I used the metal "pocket" to put the ballasts in, and zip tied them using the existing holes around the pockets. It's like Scion put them there just for the ballasts.

Anyone else install their ballasts there?

One more thing. The company I bought from talked me into 8000k lights. I had 4300k in my lows and fogs on my 2500hd, and really liked the amount of light output, but these **** BLUE bulbs...lol I think I am going to go back to 4300k bulbs.
 

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WOW...that was easy. Even easier than my 2500 HD, as the light setup is very similar, having the bulb easily reachable.

Here is the kicker.................

I don't have pics yet, but the I used the metal "pocket" to put the ballasts in, and zip tied them using the existing holes around the pockets. It's like Scion put them there just for the ballasts.

Anyone else install their ballasts there?

One more thing. The company I bought from talked me into 8000k lights. I had 4300k in my lows and fogs on my 2500hd, and really liked the amount of light output, but these **** BLUE bulbs...lol I think I am going to go back to 4300k bulbs.


lol. i had my ballasts there. worked perfect, except one ballast burned out, so now i'm back to stock. lol.
 

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Have my ballasts in the same place as well. As for the 8000K bulbs, that is just plain dumb. They are way too blue to be useful for seeing anything at night, you're right in going back to the 4300K bulbs. The highest I've run is 5000K and even at that point you can start to see some decrease in visibility due to the color.
 

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I love the 4300k color. So much more visibility. They have to be aimed correctly though, like the low beams in the boxes. I had my truck lights dialed lower than normal, so I wouldn't blind anyone.
 

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Sorry all but gotta diagree with ya. Love my 8ks. Had them in my rs8. Got em from ledmod. And with the 'white' (actually have a tint of blue for some reason) led marker bulbs (ones above turn signal) theyre best ive driven with. Had 55w 6ks in my ram that were ok too. I think any 'bluer' (above 8k) and your askin to be pulled over. If I remem right. There was a test done on lumens or some bightness measurement crap that a tint of blue was brighter and gave better reflectivity on signs n such than any other color.
 

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I currently run 6000k on my RS8 and I'm very happy with them. A little blue, but not too much and great visibility for my tastes. Also had 6000k on my RS1
 

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Sorry all but gotta diagree with ya. Love my 8ks. Had them in my rs8. Got em from ledmod. And with the 'white' (actually have a tint of blue for some reason) led marker bulbs (ones above turn signal) theyre best ive driven with. Had 55w 6ks in my ram that were ok too. I think any 'bluer' (above 8k) and your askin to be pulled over. If I remem right. There was a test done on lumens or some bightness measurement crap that a tint of blue was brighter and gave better reflectivity on signs n such than any other color.
Glad you like the 8ks Slo but one drive with those on a pitch black mountain road when compared to bulbs in the 4300-5000K range and you see the difference immediately. It's just a fact of how the human eye sees, and we don't see too well in the blue range. :( Sort of why shooting glasses and other 'high visibility' glasses are always yellow in color, they filter out the blue end of the light spectrum. If you're driving where there are strret lights then it's not as big a deal but when your headlights are the only thing giving you light ahead and you don't want to hit a deer then it's just better and safer to stay with bulb temperatures that are nearer the natural spectrum of the eye.
 

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Great to hear the install was really easy.

I was thinking 5000k myself after looking up HID info a bunch of times. TRDSparks has Meng Motorsports HID kits that look decent and have 2 year warranties. I want it to look like high end cars, like it's high end OEM headlights, definitely not blue and stick out like sore thumb a mile away and obvious aftermarket mod. The tiniest amount of blue tinge might be ok, but white otherwise, not yellow. I also don't want to lose lighting effectiveness with the higher temps.

I've read that most factory HID systems use 4300k to 5400k, is that right? People give answers all over the place.

I notice LEDMod coming up here and there, and they caught my eye with those nice switchback blinkers. I might have to get those.
 

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Hikingmike

you are correct that the 4300k is what most OEM HID's come as.

Check out Xentechid, the seller, on EBAY, and also DDM tuning out of San Diego.

Price-wise Xentechid gives the best price, with free shipping and a 2 yr warranty.
DDM, on their high end HID's ( like $50 a pair) give a lifetime warranty.

I have had both, and both gave me ZERO problems over the 6 yrs I had HID's in my Chevy 2500hd. I had DDM tuning in my lows, and Xentec in my fogs, both 4500k

DDM Tuning: HID and LED Lighting

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/xentec-hid
 

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Glad you like the 8ks Slo but one drive with those on a pitch black mountain road when compared to bulbs in the 4300-5000K range and you see the difference immediately.
Run out to the smokeys every year and live in farm land ;). I just say personal taste.
 

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Hikingmike

you are correct that the 4300k is what most OEM HID's come as.

Check out Xentechid, the seller, on EBAY, and also DDM tuning out of San Diego.

Price-wise Xentechid gives the best price, with free shipping and a 2 yr warranty.
DDM, on their high end HID's ( like $50 a pair) give a lifetime warranty.

I have had both, and both gave me ZERO problems over the 6 yrs I had HID's in my Chevy 2500hd. I had DDM tuning in my lows, and Xentec in my fogs, both 4500k

DDM Tuning: HID and LED Lighting

Xentec HID: Xenon Lights | eBay
Cool, thanks for the references. I have heard people complaining about DDM HIDs. I don't know if that means they are not as reliable or just loads of people have them. I have read people say the stuff at The Retrofit Source is high quality (Morimoto brand). More expensive but maybe better, and 5 year warranty. Their website is certainly pretty darn nice, heh.
H11: Morimoto Elite HID System - HID Systems from The Retrofit Source Inc
 

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I recommend DDM Tuning for HID kit... ive bought them on almost all my vehicles. Price is awesome just the waiting for shipping to arrive is a pain lol

For my xB i bought the 55w 6000k I like it cause its comes out pretty much super white w/ slight hint of blue. I got tired of the whole blue look lol
 

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Get rid of the 8k

I've had kits from HIDextra.com and DDM in my 2010. Was always looking for the OEM 4300k look, and was never satisfied. Last month I finally make the jump to The Retrofit Source Morimoto Elite 4300 kit with the XB35 H11B bulbs. Wow what a difference. They are brighter than some OEM hids that I've driven next to. These bulbs cut out most if not all the glare that I got from the squirrel finders above the cut off when using the other HID kits. The color is exactly like you see on the OEM systems. Highly recommended.
 

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I recommend DDM Tuning for HID kit... ive bought them on almost all my vehicles. Price is awesome just the waiting for shipping to arrive is a pain lol

For my xB i bought the 55w 6000k I like it cause its comes out pretty much super white w/ slight hint of blue. I got tired of the whole blue look lol
Cool thanks for the input. Yeah I don't want the blue either, so 5000k probably is great for me.


Get rid of the 8k

I've had kits from HIDextra.com and DDM in my 2010. Was always looking for the OEM 4300k look, and was never satisfied. Last month I finally make the jump to The Retrofit Source Morimoto Elite 4300 kit with the XB35 H11B bulbs. Wow what a difference. They are brighter than some OEM hids that I've driven next to. These bulbs cut out most if not all the glare that I got from the squirrel finders above the cut off when using the other HID kits. The color is exactly like you see on the OEM systems. Highly recommended.
Interesting, good to hear from someone who actually used them. I take it you got the one I linked? So you don't see glare above the cutoff? I thought that different projectors were required for doing that... or maybe just to be more perfect. I read on their site about the two types of bulbs so was wondering if the XB35 worked in our cars (H11B type bulb instead of H11). Good to know. I actually sent them a message on their site asking that same thing and they responded positively today too, hah.
Answers @ TRS <[email protected]>
Yes sir, thanks for the email - for your Scion, you will also want to go for the H11B XB35 bulb, not the 3Five - this way you will get the best light output without any ground shadow.
Besides the return wire positioning, they don't really say what's different about them, which makes me wonder what's behind them saying "The XB35 Bulbs put the 3Five's on sterioids and ups the ante in every category".
 

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Ordered the 4300 bulbs today...So sick of not being able to see at night. The stock bulbs throw better light than those garbage 8k bulbs
Sorry to hear about the wasted time and money on the 8k's
 

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Ordered the 4300 bulbs today...So sick of not being able to see at night. The stock bulbs throw better light than those garbage 8k bulbs
I had 55W 8000K for about 2 years and they were so bright, I replaced them with 10000K. :clown:

but more seriously, my bulbs were really bright and 100's time better than stock!
Maybe you just had a cr*ppy bunch ...
 

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I had 55W 8000K for about 2 years and they were so bright, I replaced them with 10000K. :clown:

but more seriously, my bulbs were really bright and 100's time better than stock!
Maybe you just had a cr*ppy bunch ...
I agree. I hear about people buying kits and them thinking there stock bulbs are brighter im like huh?
Must be a messed up kit because halogen bulbs suck.
 
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