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I will be looking at trading my 2012 xb! I cannot comprehend how crapy the 5 speed manual is on this car. I have tried everything to make it better and failed in all ( axion, trd shot shift). The worst part is that I really like the car for an economy type. I am very upset and sad at the same time!
 

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I think garryfngraves on here has an auto he's looking to trade if I remember correctly... Nit sure of year, miles, condition tho
 

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I will be looking at trading my 2012 xb! I cannot comprehend how crapy the 5 speed manual is on this car. I have tried everything to make it better and failed in all ( axion, trd shot shift). The worst part is that I really like the car for an economy type. I am very upset and sad at the same time!
I also have a '12 manual. I would say overall it's an average manual. Not the best or worst. I find it fun. Clutch grabs high but other than that it's decent. What do you dislike?
 

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I have an 08 maunual, it's not a sports car is the problem. If you expect it to drive like one it WILL be disappointing. I've had several manuals, MR2, Celcia, 240sx, Frontier, xB, b1600 (not in any specific order) and they each drove differently. The cars drove like sports cars, the trucks drove like trucks, and the xB drives like an eco car to tote kids in. The xB will never be a real sports car and it won't feel like one when you drive it. An auto won't make your problem go away, it will just make it seem ok since it will drive like an auto eco car should.
 

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I have an 08 maunual, it's not a sports car is the problem. If you expect it to drive like one it WILL be disappointing. I've had several manuals, MR2, Celcia, 240sx, Frontier, xB, b1600 (not in any specific order) and they each drove differently. The cars drove like sports cars, the trucks drove like trucks, and the xB drives like an eco car to tote kids in. The xB will never be a real sports car and it won't feel like one when you drive it. An auto won't make your problem go away, it will just make it seem ok since it will drive like an auto eco car should.
Agreed! When I want to have fun I take out my AE86.. the xB just wasn't built to rally and snap through gears. I find the gears a little low at times, sometimes first gear just gets skipped altogether.. but auto just wouldn't cut it for me.
 

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Agreed! When I want to have fun I take out my AE86.. the xB just wasn't built to rally and snap through gears. I find the gears a little low at times, sometimes first gear just gets skipped altogether.. but auto just wouldn't cut it for me.

I find the auto gears long. But this is my work car, so it only really sees the freeway in L.A. traffic. The only reason I would want to make it perform better would be to improve handling for control in emergency situations.

Got any photos of your AE86?


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Has an LSD rear end, definitely likes to get sideways. I think the twin cam is due for some fresh gaskets though, startin to drop some oil. Hella fun though :biggrin:


that's my other halfs kp61 Starlet in the back as well.. it has a twin cam swap and wide body kit. Like a little go kart it's awesome!
 

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Not sure about the States!...I'm north of the border.. there's a 20 valve in our garage thats going in the Starlet soon. They are getting harder to find due to the popularity of the AE's and swapping 20 valves. They are out there though. I've recently acquired a couple aw11 mr2's just to get the 4age's out of them lol those are getting tough to find (the 4ages). I love the coupe.. I know the hatch is more sought after for weight ratios for drifting but I like the look of the little trunk. I find the back end of the hatchs look bulky. Looking into getting a coupe imported from Japan cause there's just nothing left here that hasn't been beaten or rotted and I need a new toy!
 

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I have only seen one AE86 hatch for sale here, and I have seen a few coupes but they are never in good condition.

Generally the US gets the short end of the stick with the Japanese imports. No AWD (5th gen) celicas came over i'm aware of, we didn't get the sweet convertible trunk thing in the del sol, we got the small 240 engine, although I liked the DOHC one quite a lot in mine.

When I had my Celicas I was always Jealous of the Australian models. The bodies were a little different and the hoods were SWEET. Plus most of the cars we get here are geared a little differently.
 

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I have only seen one AE86 hatch for sale here, and I have seen a few coupes but they are never in good condition.

Generally the US gets the short end of the stick with the Japanese imports. No AWD (5th gen) celicas came over i'm aware of, we didn't get the sweet convertible trunk thing in the del sol, we got the small 240 engine, although I liked the DOHC one quite a lot in mine.

When I had my Celicas I was always Jealous of the Australian models. The bodies were a little different and the hoods were SWEET. Plus most of the cars we get here are geared a little differently.

Yeah I saw a guy with an s15 Silvia front end on his 240sx the other day. It made me realize the s15 never made it here. Shame. The celica gt4 was fast, but pretty heavy. And corollas are primarily hatchbacks in Australia.


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North America in its entirety will never have as sweet of cars as Japan. What we can get is way over priced and has typically been molested by someone along the way. Anyone have any experience importing cars? Right hand drive would be weird as **** but might be worth it.
 

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Can you guys explain to me the attraction to right hand drive in the US? I understand it in old Euro Spec VW's and MG's and other oddities... but really? Right hand drive? Where's the advantage other than just wanting to be different? We drive with our butts in the left seat, so we can see the side we drive nearest... the important side... it's more visible that way. Sitting on the opposing side... I wouldn't feel like I had the best vantage point for decision making on a daily basis like that. I'd be Super wary in my collectible, driving it right hand drive as well. Here's a map of places that drive on which side... I think you may be shocked that there are truly only a handful of places still driving on the left side (right hand drive cars).

Worldwide Driving Orientation by Country
 

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I don't have an attraction to it in the least. Only reason I would have one is that there are nice cars available to import from Japan that would be RHD. If I found a mint condition ae86 locally I would prefer that, but chances are slim.
 

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All of the cars I've ever owned have been manual transmission. I live in the city too! (which for some, MT is a no no because of stop and go traffic).

I chose a manual for the xB when I bought the car.

It is absolutely NOT a sports manual car. (When I first got it, I had to keep reminding myself that there was no 6th gear and that right and down was reverse!)

That said. I think I'd be very bored driving an automatic.....regardless, I'm thinking that the xB might not be the vehicle you are looking for.

I came from a 6 speed tiburon, V6. The xB isn't even in the same ball park compared to my previous car......especially the gearbox...

...but really, I don't mind.

I say you give it another try :)
 
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