[arp1500]

new guy from nc and i bought my new scion back in november after trading in a 2012 mustang gt with engine work done to it, so now i need some help with this scion

the body roll is insane

i been looking at the hotchkis sway bars, strut brace and maybe lowering springs
what do you all recommend its a everyday driver so i cant go to low

any help would b cool

does anyone have the new sway bars

 

[5zero4]

I can tell you TRD lowering springs and a strut brace seem to tighten things up. The sway bar would also be worth getting.


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[zinger]

The TRD sway bar made a big difference on my 09.

TartanJack has said before that he loves his hotchkis sways. I'm not sure about now, but the pair of front and rear hotchkis sways used to cost about the same as the TRD which is just the rear.

For leveling and just a little drop the TRD or NF210 springs seem to be the way to go. I believe the TRD's are supposed to be a little stiffer than the NF's.

Most reports say the strut brace makes minimal difference unless you're really pushing it in the turns. I don't know much about them, but the cheap eBay ones (under $30) have a bolt that holds the bracket to the brace. The TRD is much more expensive ($150+), but is a solid/welded bar. A member once talked about how the bolt on the eBay brace might allow it to pivot which would mean it isn't really stopping movement of the strut towers. That sounds reasonable, but I don't have any experience with it so who knows. Hopefully someone who uses the eBay brace will chime in with their experience.

 

[markio]

First of all how do we know you actually got one if you didn't post pics, second of all j/k, third of all-welcome, and fourth of all what color did you get?

 

[5zero4]

I have the eBay strut brace. I noticed more stable/ accurate steering on long sweeping bends. It definitely works. I have seen many high end strut bars use the bolt on center bar, cusco comes to mind. I don't see any signs of wear at the bolts to suggest there has been any movement or pivoting. If anything, the rigidity of the bar itself could be better. I haven't tested a TRD one to be able to say if it is better or not.


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[BrickPig]

Based on what I've read on this forum over the past 2 years, I would recommend TRD springs, Hotchkis sway bars front and rear, and a front tower brace. I have the eBay knockoff front tower brace, in my opinion the bolted connections don't hurt the bracing function. If you're really serious, also get TRD shocks. Lowering the rear changes the wheel camber slightly, most of us don't worry about it but some have corrected the rear camber using shims.

Don't forget that wheels and tires also play into the handling equation! Sounds like you are willing to give up some comfort to get cornering performance so I'd recommend 18" or 19" wheels and low profile summer tires.

 

[Slorocket]

Welcome! As you can seethere are all types of opinions on what they like and recommend. It will all depend on what you interpret from your findings here and most importantly your budget. Our cars are built to be built. Make it yours. And SHARE your thoughts and opinions. Its helps others like you have.

 

[zinger]

Hmmm based on 5zero4 and Brickpig's comments I may get the eBay strut brace.

 

[BrickPig]

Hmmm based on 5zero4 and Brickpig's comments I may get the eBay strut brace.

Yup I got that one. Installation was tight but I did not have to remove my wiper cowling. Having racheting and swiveling box-end wrenches helps a lot. See Chapter 10 on my website.

After installation I did rotate my air intake resonance box slightly to clear the bar, else it would vibrate against the bar at idle when in Drive.

Frankly, the cornering improvement is there, but...subtle.

But it sure looks cool...