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· Royal Floor Sweeper
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scion said:
Check the past posts on here and you will see someone said that the clutch, brakes and accelerator pedal was not to his liking. I believe others have mentioned something about having trouble letting the clutch out from a stand still without killing the engine.
That would be Yodar . . .
-> Also note the other posts in those threads. Sometimes people agree with him, sometimes no one does.

My other main car is a 90 Mazda MX-5 Miata, I understand the whole legs out seating position.
The seating position in a gen 2 xB is more like a truck than a sports car. That was my biggest concern when getting it. Yet, it doesn't bother me in the least, oddly.

The handling isn't as crisp as a stock Mini, much less one with the "sports suspension."Yet, it isn't bad at all.
When I shopping, my "criteria" required "fun to drive," rather than ultimate performance. I kept the Miata (as it is way too much fun, worth more to me than anyone else, and has a well-set-up suspension), so it remained my "hard driving car."
Why mention the Miata? Well, the Miata and Mini both handle exceptionally well (almost like a FWD and RWD version of the same car). In fact, the next car I was going to look at was a Mini Clubman (would have gotten black and yellow-> "Yellowjacket").

The xB blew me away, esp. compared to the other "cross-overs," sedans, and "sport wagons" (PT and HHR) that I had looked at.

Remember, the xB doesn't even have a rear sway bar in stock form and the springs are more for "comfort" than superior handling. The TRD springs and rear sway or the Hotchkiss springs and sways (or some of the other brands) significantly improve the handling at a relatively low cost.

The difference between the Mini and xB just didn't seem worth the $4,000 to $5,000 price difference. For that, one can take an xB, add the TRD blower and a great suspension set up to get a similar handling vehicle that has a much larger interior.
 

· Royal Floor Sweeper
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One more thing:
INSURANCE!

The gen 2 xB is officially recognized as a "station wagon" by State Farm. So, the insurance is cheap.
In fact, for me, it was only $50/6-months more than the 1996 Ford Crown Vic it replaced. (Oh, I HATED how that CV drove!)

-Also, the Miata is a "2-door sedan" . . .
--So, according to State Farm, THIS is a station wagon and a 2-dr sedan:

-> Might as well be a Ford Focus or 2-door kia and a land-tank . . .

But, what it IS is a HECK of a lot more fun!
 

· Royal Floor Sweeper
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Congrats!

So, first impressions:
How does it compare to the Mini "out of the box"/bone-stock?
 

· Royal Floor Sweeper
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Thanks.
That is what I thought/suspected. My brother has a Mini Cooper (non-S), so I had some experience. But, as you are coming from a Mini S, I thought it would be more obvious.
Remember: If the xB didn't drive as good as it does, I would have gotten a Mini Clubman (to fit the kids over the next 5-10 years).
 

· Royal Floor Sweeper
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There is an outlet on the bottom of the shifter box, near the floor, on the passenger side of the facing towards the cupholders.
 

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xBillTheCat said:
Apparently not happening today. And apparently, Scion has the slowest car carrier trucks around. Salesman told me the car was shipped on a carrier today, but could arrive any time from now until Friday. The logic problem there is that the port is only 4 hours away by car. Maybe 5-6 by truck, with traffic.
Must be using American-made (GM, Ford, or Chrysler) tractors . . .
 

· Royal Floor Sweeper
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Sorry to hear that.

Though . . .
The Mazda is a GREAT car too, just rather different than the xB.
 

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They are both great cars, just rather different.

My preference is for the xB, which is why I got one.
 

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TulsaToaster said:
TartanJack said:
They are both great cars, just rather different.

My preference is for the xB, which is why I got one.
Agree. Just seems odd that once you made up your mind you'd let a 2 day delay change your decision. Eviljack went through a bunch of hoops before finally getting his..... just sayin..
On that I also agree . . .
(VERY odd to make up your mind, wait several weeks for delivery, and buy something else when an additional 2 day delay pops up unexpectedly.)
 
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