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Weapon R used my xB2 to prototype a cold air secret weapon intake. OMG! The difference is like night and day, you feel the car pull much stronger and the performance gains are phenomenal. Ive yet to feel this significant of a change even with the header and exhaust combo. They say that full production will be underway in a week and finished products should be here in about a month and a half. But WOW.. I really have to say Im very impressed. I should have dyno numbers next week for you guys, but they showed me something that was impressive. They took a TC with Fujita cold air intake on it, took the Fujita filter off and added their filter and the car dynoed with 6HP more!!! So you now you figure in the secret weapon piping, plus cold air, and their filter I should be looking at a total of 10+ hp gain.. thats quite a bit for a 160hp stock motor.
 

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I was looking at this system but found a different one that suits my need a bit better. However I thought this item was already avaliable? I believe that Ross already has one on his system. I was curious how much he liked it because I heard from a friend of mine that used one on another car of his that this CAI was crap. Of course this was a few years ago and they may have made things better since then but you never know.
 

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Weapon R has never made a cold air intake system for any car... they have cold air boxes for several cars but their primary intakes are all short rams. A few years ago, Turbo or Import Tuner, I forget which one... did a comparison with 4-5 different short ram systems. Weapon R came in first place, plus at the time their system was the most affordable. If you look at HKS, who has been making filters and intakes since the beginning of the import car movement. They use foam filter elements as opposed to paper, because foam, although easier to get dirty, allows for much higher air flow.
 

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yea in almost all cases a cold air intake, you cant see the filter at all in the engine compartment. Most CAIs the filter is hidden below, close to the bumper, hence getting cold air. Almost impossible to get cold air in the engine bay unless its separated by a cold air box, but even then nothing is better than drawing cold air away from the engine.
 

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sorry for reviving an old thread, but did they ever put this intake into production? it's a full cold air intake, right? not just a ram air intake?
 
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Welcome to the site!! i think they did I know there is a weapon R intake yeah? Someone wanna help me on this.
 

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Well, . . .
The first posts were back in February . . . I believe it has now hot market.

Now, on cold air vs/ ram air intakes . . .
They work different.
Cold air ones draw air from a colder location, like the wheel well. The idea is that cold air is denser than warm air, so more combustible air gets into the engine combustion cycle. Thereby, more power is made. The issue on most/most systems (for cars in general), is that the cold air gets to engine ambient temp in the tube, as the tube gets heated. So, the temp itself isn't different, but the overall system is less restrictive than the stock one. So, there are horsepower or torque gains as a result, just for the reason advertised.

Ram air takes in air and shoves it, under pressure, into the intake manifold. So, there is more air coming in, the more power made. This is the same idea, in the form of much higher pressure, of a "blower" (a belt driven supercharger or an exhaust flow driven turbocharger). A ram air version just uses ducting and pressure from forward car movement to add some pressure to the intake flow.

So, the idea of both types is to get more air into the intake manifold, just in a different manner.

Both intake styles can be in a long or short form. A shorter intake has less room in the tubes to heat up the air in them, as there are less tubes and less surface area. Also, a shorter intake should have less restriction than a longer one (less bends and obstructions in the tube to obstruct smooth air flow).
Some "ram air" intakes don't effectively pressurize the air enough to make a "hill of beans" difference, BUT they are short, smooth flowing intakes. So they give more power by a less restrictive intake flow.

What I have learned from a decade dealing with various intakes (and having "power crazy" friends trying to give more horsepower to various year Miata engines, which have less overall systems than most Japanese "hot" cars) . . .
Power is created by various means and an intake design MAY be created by for one technique, but achieve it by another. Also, "Seat of the pants" feel means little on intakes, as sound and location of torque and power can make a power loss SEEM like a gain. Trust dynos, NOT "seat of the pants." Which reminds me, some intakes just MOVE AROUND power and torque, rather than add anything. SO, ultimate horsepower numbers can be improved, mid range power is lost and so is torque across the engine range. Again, dynos tell what actually happens.
Personally, I'd MUCH rather get a system than increases MIDRANGE horsepower and especially torque, as that is where acceleration changes tend to be most effective. Midrange gaining systems may not gain much at higher end or may be an "across the power band" change.
Oh, and I value mid to high TORQUE improvements more than "horsepower." Torque increases usable, real "engine power" more than "horsepower."
 
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