Self-Locking Door Issue

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zinger

Discussion Starter · Feb 6, 2012

I take my xB to a nice local hand-wash place since I have hard well water and don't want to leave spots on my car. Even though it is hand-wash, they have the little track that pulls the car through where is sprays the soap on, rinses and blow dries. They pull the car up, turn it off, then turn the key back to the on position to put the car in neutral as it goes through. Twice now, the xB has locked itself with the keys in the ignition.

Does anyone have an idea why it sometimes locks itself but usually doesn't? I don't have an alarm or anything, just the stock keyless entry. This just occurred to me. Could it maybe have something to do with whether the door is open or closed when they shift it out of park?

On a related note, it is a little disturbing how easy it is to get in the locked car with a blood pressure cuff and a stick!

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TrevorS

· #2 · Feb 7, 2012

zinger said:
Does anyone have an idea why it sometimes locks itself but usually doesn't? I don't have an alarm or anything, just the stock keyless entry. This just occurred to me. Could it maybe have something to do with whether the door is open or closed when they shift it out of park?

I don't know, but this sounds like something you could test yourself?

zinger said:
On a related note, it is a little disturbing how easy it is to get in the locked car with a blood pressure cuff and a stick!

Could you provide more detail? Mine objects strongly if I open a locked door through an open window. Even if I have the key on hand, the racket is very unpleasant

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zinger

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 7, 2012

TrevorS said:
I don't know, but this sounds like something you could test yourself?

Could you provide more detail? Mine objects strongly if I open a locked door through an open window. Even if I have the key on hand, the racket is very unpleasant !

Yeah, I'll try it tomorrow. I just thought someone already know. I do know that if I unlock the car with just one push of the button (only unlocks the driver's door), then it will lock itself after a minute or so. That shouldn't be happening here though as the car is fully unlocked when I give it to them.

Before anyone complains that I'm giving anyone instructions on how to steal a car, I found this on the internet after a very simple search.

They have a blood pressure cuff with the cuff part removed. What is left is a flat, square bladder with the hand pump attached. They slip the bladder between the door and the B-pillar as far as they can and pump it up. That makes a gap at the top of the door about an inch wide. The put a metal rod through the gap and push the door unlock button. It takes 15-20 seconds.

I remember reading about it on the net once. Imagine my surprise to see the car wash owner doing it to my car a few months later! (He did ask me if I had a spare key first.)

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TrevorS

· #4 · Feb 7, 2012 (Edited)

zinger said:
Yeah, I'll try it tomorrow. I just thought someone already know. I do know that if I unlock the car with just one push of the button (only unlocks the driver's door), then it will lock itself after a minute or so.

Yes, that's normal, it times the reception of the unlock signal and opening of the door (actually allows a pretty short period), iIf it's "over" long then the door relocks.

zinger said:
That shouldn't be happening here though as the car is fully unlocked when I give it to them.

Before anyone complains that I'm giving anyone instructions on how to steal a car, I found this on the internet after a very simple search.

They have a blood pressure cuff with the cuff part removed. What is left is a flat, square bladder with the hand pump attached. They slip the bladder between the door and the B-pillar as far as they can and pump it up. That makes a gap at the top of the door about an inch wide. The put a metal rod through the gap and push the door unlock button. It takes 15-20 seconds.

Completely got me on this

! As I said, if I reach though an open window, release the lock, and open the door, the alarm triggers -- that strikes me as an equivalent scenario (utilizing an opening to release the lock and open the door.) Seems like there's some piece of information missing in this.

PS. Guess I should clarify that my alarm doesn't trigger until the door release is operated. As I recall, unlock alone doesn't do it. Again, this is something you can check for yourself.

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zinger

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 7, 2012

TrevorS said:
Yes, that's normal, it times the reception of the unlock signal and opening of the door (actually allows a pretty short period), iIf it's "over" long then the door relocks.

Completely got me on this ! As I said, if I reach though an open window, release the lock, and open the door, the alarm triggers -- that strikes me as an equivalent scenario (utilizing an opening to release the lock and open the door.) Seems like there's some piece of information missing in this.

PS. Guess I should clarify that my alarm doesn't trigger until the door release is operated. As I recall, unlock alone doesn't do it. Again, this is something you can check for yourself.

Remember though, I said I DON'T have the alarm. I just have the standard remote lock. I'm sure your alarm would scream if someone tried this. That's why it seems especially strange that the door relocks.

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Chrevis

· #6 · Feb 8, 2012

I ran into a problem of my doors locking when I turned the ignition to ON. It was a small square box with a plug into it next to the interior fuse box, I unplugged it then every time I turned the key to "on" it would lock the doors. Plugging the box back in resolved the issue. Hope this helps!

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x925abmx

· #7 · Feb 21, 2012

zinger said:
Yeah, I'll try it tomorrow. I just thought someone already know. I do know that if I unlock the car with just one push of the button (only unlocks the driver's door), then it will lock itself after a minute or so. That shouldn't be happening here though as the car is fully unlocked when I give it to them.

Before anyone complains that I'm giving anyone instructions on how to steal a car, I found this on the internet after a very simple search.

They have a blood pressure cuff with the cuff part removed. What is left is a flat, square bladder with the hand pump attached. They slip the bladder between the door and the B-pillar as far as they can and pump it up. That makes a gap at the top of the door about an inch wide. The put a metal rod through the gap and push the door unlock button. It takes 15-20 seconds.

I remember reading about it on the net once. Imagine my surprise to see the car wash owner doing it to my car a few months later! (He did ask me if I had a spare key first.)

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your unluck button does not work when your car auto lock. i tested it with windows down while car will auto lock. the unlock button will not work unless unlocked by remote first

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