[Dale]

They are calling for some decent weather this weekend,so I'm going to install new rear speakers.I bought new 6.5's, connection harnesses, and adapter rings.The speakers fit the rings perfectly but I'm thinking of using pop rivets to mount the new speakers. My question is, do the adapter rings fit the existing holes and what size are the pop rivets I need to do this? Anybody have any thoughts?
Thanks, Dale

 

[Boat]

Don't use rivets. They can loosen up over time and rattle. Use sheet metal screws. I installed 6.5's in the rear doors and they actually fit the holes perfectly. No adapter rings required. These Hertz speakers sound great too!...

 

[evilcalvin]

i replaced mine with HiVi 8" midbass drivers

 

[gs_aristo]

Don't use rivets. They can loosen up over time and rattle. Use sheet metal screws. I installed 6.5's in the rear doors and they actually fit the holes perfectly. No adapter rings required. These Hertz speakers sound great too!...

Did you just install the speakers directly on the door?? I would have at least put some dynamat in between the door and speaker to give some sound deadening and not metal to metal contact.

 

[TartanJack]

The factory ones are pop-rivet mounted.
The rear ones have a somewhat (1/4" diameter?) smaller mounting triangle than the fronts. Plus, it's a smaller door hole in back than front.

When I put front speakers in the rear, I have to drill new holes for the pop-rivets (actually, I simply enlarged the holes inward into an oblong oval) and remove the water guard to get it into the holes.
That was originally intended to be a stop-gap till I got new speakers (after being rather disappointed by some 6.25" Pioneer ones) and the Bazooka bass-box.

Now, I am running the Bazooka and the 4 front-door speakers and I am rather happy with the results for everyday use. It isn't perfect, but fine for what I am using and sound decent.

The holes are rather large for 6.25" speakers and one NEEDS an adapter of some sort to make the speaker mounts not be inside the door speaker hole.
For 6.5", the rear fits OK with a self-tapping screw, but I can't remember if the front will or not.

Regardless, when I DO finally get new speakers, I want to pop-rivet in an adapter plate (wood or plastic), then screw-mount the actual speaker to that.

 

[Boat]

Did you just install the speakers directly on the door?? I would have at least put some dynamat in between the door and speaker to give some sound deadening and not metal to metal contact.

I knew someone was going to call me out on that pic...

It was just a test fit pic to show the speakers fit the hole. I did install the speaker directly into the door and used matching screws. It's not "metal to metal" contact as you put it since the speaker plate is plastic. I did use some generic dynamat around the door though...

 

[Dale]

Saturday was nice, so I decided to install the rear speakers.The pass. side rear door took me awhile to figure out how to remove the inner panel,but it finally came off. After drilling out the pop rivets and disconnecting, the old speaker came right off. The replacement was already on the adapter ring, along with the small harness, went on without any problems ( the holes in the ring lined up perfectly).After re-installing the inner liner, I went to the other door.It took only half as long (learning curve). The whole project didn't take more than 1 hour. The sound is for sure is much better, the bass is tighter, deeper. All in all, a good project for a rather mild Saturday afternoon.

 

[TartanJack]

What speakers did you install?

 

[Dale]

I got the Pioneer TS-G1644R's. Saw them on Ebay for $39 new. Because of my age (just turned 70), my requirements for perfect sound reproduction. is not what it used to be (highs are now almost not there (above 10K).

 

[Dale]

I got the Pioneer TS-G1644R's. Saw them on Ebay for $39 new. Because of my age (just turned 70), my requirements for perfect sound reproduction. is not what it used to be (highs are now almost not there (above 10K).

I forgot to mention that the site I purchesed the speakers is Parts Express.I also got their catalog and after going thru it, I was impressed. They carry A LOT of stuff.