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I been reading that with all the problems Toyota are having right now, that the resale value of their vehicle will be affected. What do you guys think? ;)
 

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Initially yes, due to the current fervor. IMHO it's just a series of unfortunate events that will blow over. Honda and Toyota are still way above the rest when it comes to initial and more importantly, long term quality and are the only two marques that will see a spot reserved for them in my driveway.
 

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I been reading that with all the problems Toyota are having right now, that the resale value of their vehicle will be affected. What do you guys think? ;)
Hmmmm, I believe that several on the fourm have "re-badged" their xB(s) as Toyota(s)....maybe it is time to badge back as Scion(s) to hold on to resale value! :rofl:

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What sux, is that in the same time 40 other manufacturers have had recalls.  Some were identical to Toyota's most were worse.
Ford, GM, and Chrysler all had them.
One was for SEATBELTS coming unlacked . . .

Toyota's just had the most press coverage.

Examples of December 2009 recalls, from http://www.recalls.gov/nhtsa.html . . .

Kawasaki is recalling model year 2009 and 2010 EX250 Ninja 250 motorcycles.  Porosity in the engine case could allow engine oil to leak, and be deposited on the rear tire.  A small number of upper engine cases for the affected model could have porosity in the aluminum casting. This porosity occurs in the vicinity of a pressurized oil passage just above the transmission output shaft.  Engine oil leaking from this location can be deposited on the rear tire, creating the risk of a crash.  Dealers will inspect and check for leaks in the vicinity of the suspected porosity. Units evidencing signs of leakage will be repaired free of charge.  The safety recall began on December 8, 2009.  Owners may contact Kawasaki at 1-866-802- 9381.

Buell is recalling certain model year 2010 XB12X and XB12XT motorcycles manufactured from August 20 through September 30, 2009.  The right hand side footpeg mount may have been manufactured to incorrect specifications.   This condition could allow the footpeg to move significantly out of position, which could lead to loss of control of the vehicle resulting in injury or death of the rider.  Dealers will replace the defective footpeg mount with a new footpeg mount that was manufactured to the correct specifications.  This service will be performed free of charge.  The safety recall began on December 14, 2009.  Owners may contact Buell Distribution Company at 1-414-343-8400.

GM:
General Motors is recalling certain model year 2010 Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain vehicles for failing to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 103, "Windshield Defrosting and Defogging Systems and with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 101, Controls and Displays".  The software in the center instrument panel can cause the heating, air conditioning, defrost, and radio controls, as well as the panel illumination to become inoperative.  Driving without a functioning defrost system can decrease your visibility under certain driving conditions and could result in a crash without warning.  Dealers will replace the computer module in the center instrument panel free of charge.  The safety recall is expected to begin during January 2010.  Owners may contact Chevrolet at 1-800-630-2438, GMC at 1-866-996-9463 or at www.gmownercenter.com.  GM's campaign number is 090298.

General Motors is recalling certain model year 2005 through 2007 Corvette vehicles equipped with a removable roof and model year 2006 and 2007 Corvette Z06 vehicles.  The adhesive between the roof panel and the frame may separate.  If there is a partial separation, the driver may notice one or more symptoms, such as a snapping noise when driving over bumps, wind noise, poor roof panel fit, roof panel movement/bounce when a door or hatch is closed, or a water leak in the headliner.  If there is a complete separation, the roof panel may detach from the vehicle.  If this were to occur while the vehicle was being driven, it could strike a following vehicle and cause injury and/or property damage.  Dealers will install a new design roof panel free of charge.  The safety recall is expected to begin during January 2010.  Owners may contact Chevrolet at 1-800-630-2438 or at www.gmownercenter.com.  GM's campaign number is 090230.
SAFETY DEFECT/NONCOMPLIANCE NOTICES
RECEIVED DURING DECEMBER 2009
January 7, 2010 Published

Volvo (Fuel leak that MAY START FIRE!):
Volvo is recalling model year 2010 XC60 vehicles. The fuel line rail cover that protects the fuel lines under the vehicle may not be properly attached exposing the fuel lines to damage.  Damage to the fuel lines may result in a fuel leak which, in the presence of an ignition source, could result in a fire.  Dealers will inspect the fuel line rail cover for proper attachment and reattach if necessary free of charge.  The safety recall began on December 28, 2009.  Owners may contact Volvo at 1-800-458-1552.


Ford (BOTH of which I would consider more serious than Toyota's issues):
Ford is recalling model year 2010 F-650 and F-750 trucks.  The S-cam tubes on the air brake axle assemblies were not greased and corrosion may develop over time, which may restrict release of the service brake at the affected wheel.  If this occurs, it could cause excessive brake temperatures, noise, brake fade, odor, smoke, brake pull and possibly longer stopping distances which could increase the risk of a crash.  Dealers will lubricate the S-cam tube and check the S-cam for free movement at all four wheel locations free of charge.   The safety recall began on December 16, 2009.  Owners may contact Ford at 1-866-436-7332 or through the internet at www.fordowner.com.  Ford's campaign number is 09S10.

Ford is recalling model years 2010 F-650 and F-750 trucks.  The chassis wire harness may have been assembled without a connector seal  if this seal is missing, the connector terminals may corrode affecting the proper illumination of the vehicle"s rear brake lamps, tail lamps, turn signal lamps or trailer lamps (if equipped.)  Also, the function of the anti-lock brake system may be affected. Inoperative lamps may increase the risk of a crash.  Dealers will inspect the connector and repair the main and rear chassis wire harness if necessary.  A missing seal will be replaced and electrical grease applied to prevent future corrosion.  The safety recall began on December 16, 2009.  Owners may contact Ford at 1-866-436-7332 or through the internet at www.fordowner.com.  Ford's campaign number is 09S11.

The FAMOUS Subaru WRX (possible engine fire issues):
Subaru is recalling certain model year 2002 and 2003 Impreza WRX vehicles originally sold in or currently registered in the states of South Dakota, Nebraska, North Dakota, Minnesota, Idaho, Iowa, Montana, Colorado, Wisconsin, New York, Wyoming, Michigan, Alaska, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine.  During cold starts, typically under extremely cold temperatures, fuel leaks in the fuel delivery line could occur where the line connects with a rubber hose.  Fuel leaks, in the presence of an ignition source, could result in a fire.  Dealers will replace the fuel line free of charge.  The recall began on December 31, 2009.  Owners may contact Subaru at 1-800-782-2783. SAFETY DEFECT/NONCOMPLIANCE NOTICES
RECEIVED DURING DECEMBER 2009
January 7, 2010 Published

Hyundai (the SEATBELT issue):
Hyundai is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2009 Azera vehicles manufactured from September 27, 2005, through October 1, 2008.  The wiring harness for the right front seat belt tension sensor may sustain damage after repeated use of the seat belt.  If the seat belt tension sensor wiring becomes damaged the air bag will not deploy in the event of a crash necessitating front air bag deployment.  The seat occupant is at an increased risk of injury should the air bag not deploy as intended.  Hyundai will notify owners and repair the vehicles free of charge.  The safety recall is expected to begin during February 2010.  Owners may contact Hyundai customer assistance center at 1-800-633-5151.  Hyundai's recall campaign number is 094.

Range Rover (AIRBAG issues):
Jaguar Land Rover is recalling certain model year 2010 Range Rover vehicles for failing to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 208, "Occupant Crash Protection."  These vehicles equipped with occupant classification system (OCS) may experience airbag warning lamp illumination on the instrument cluster. The passenger airbag will be disabled when the airbag warning lamp is illuminated as a result of this defect and the passenger airbag warning disable (PAWD) lamp in the overhead console will also illuminate. Deployment of the passenger airbag may not be achieved in the event of a vehicle crash increasing the risk of injury.  Dealer will update the vehicle's restraints control module (RCM) with the integrated diagnostics system (IDS) tool with software from DVD 118.5 patch 16 or later. This service will be performed free of charge.  The safety recall began on December 21, 2009.  Owners may contact Jaguar Land Rover at 1-800-452-4827.

Those are JUST December 2009 . . .
(Search here: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/recallsearch.cfm )
Months Prior to present: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/recallmonthlyreports.cfm


Toyota's issues:
1) Brake pedal too long, MAY stick on aftermarket mats.
2) Brake pedal tension slightly off due to specific supplier error.
3) Prius brakes work, but way they work makes drivers think they aren't working (simple software fix)


I'm actually liking Toyota MORE by how they are handling these issues!
 

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From November 2009:
Jaguar is recalling certain model year 2010 vehicles. The fuel transfer pipe in the fuel tank may be kinked. This may restricts fuel being transferred from one side of the fuel tank to the fuel pump causing fuel starvation at low fuel levels. Fuel starvation to the engine can cause the engine to stall without warning and could potentially cause a crash. Dealers will have the fuel tank assembly repaired free of charge. The safety recall began on November 30, 2009. Owners may contact Jaguar at 1-800-452-4827.

Nissan is recalling certain model year 2009 passenger vehicles equipped with Bosch master cylinders. Brake fluid may leak from the master cylinder. If the amount of brake fluid in the master cylinder reservoir decreases to below the minimum level, the brake system warning indicator will illuminate as designed and the brakes will not function properly. If the warning lamp is continuously ignored, one of the brake circuits on the vehicle may fail increasing stopping distances and increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will inspect and replace the master cylinder brake booster assembly free of charge. The recall is expected to begin during December 2009. Owners may contact Nissan at 1-800-647-7261.

Mitsubishi is recalling model year 2008-2009 Lancer and Lancer Evolution vehicles originally sold in or currently registered in the states of Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin and District Of Columbia. In areas where heavy road salt is used in the winter, a long term exposure to a mixture of melted snow with salt thrown up by the other vehicles on the road may cause a water-salt mixture to adhere to the front impact sensors. This coating over time may cause corrosion or the sensor. In the event of a vehicle crash of the type that would deploy the airbags this type of short-circuit may cause a delay in the deployment of the airbags which could result in driver or passenger injury. Dealers will install new front airbag sensors that have improved corrosion resistance. This service will be performed free of charge. The safety recall began on November 27, 2009. Owners may contact Mitsubishi Customer Relations Department at 1-888-648-7820.

Chrysler is recalling certain model year 2007 through 2008 Jeep Wrangler vehicles manufacture from June 2006 through July 2008, equipped with automatic transmissions. These vehicles were not equipped with a transmission fluid temperature warning system. Fluid could boil over and may come into contact with a hot engine or exhaust component and cause a fire. Dealers will inspect and install a "HOTOIL" message in the instrument cluster and a chime indicating an elevated transmission fluid condition. The recall is expected to begin during December 2009. Owners may contact Chrysler at 1-800-835-1403.

Chrysler is recalling certain model year 2007 Dodge Nitro passenger vehicles. The windshield wiper system may experience a condition over time where high usage of the variable pause wiper function ("delay" mode) may eventually affect primary wiper function, rendering the wiper system inoperable. Inoperative wipers under inclement weather conditions could cause impaired visibility increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will inspect and add external relays and update the totally integrated power module software to control the wiper functions. The safety recall is expected to begin during December 2009. Owners may contact Chrysler at 1-800-835-1403. Chrysler's campaign number is J28.
Chrysler is recalling certain Model Year 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee passenger vehicles manufactured from October 22 through November 12, 2009. The passenger side airbag may not properly deploy through the instrument panel tear seam. The airbag may not properly protect the passenger in the event of a crash, increasing the risk of injury. Dealers will replace the top cover of the instrument panel free of charge. The campaign is expected to begin in December 2009. Owners may contact Chrysler at 1-800- 853-1403. Chrysler's campaign number is J33.


Mercedes-Benz is recalling model year 2009 550 G-Class vehicles. The fuel line quick connectors located under the vehicle away from the engine compartment may not have been connected properly on the assembly line and completely seated in the connection. In case of a frontal crash, the fuel pump would no longer function but a partial dislocation of the line could lead to a potential for fuel loss from the line at the quick connector. Fuel leakage, in the presence of an ignition source, could result in a fire. Dealers will check the connection of the fuel line quick connectors and install a new clamp to assure the quick connectors secure connection. The remedy will be performed free of charge. The safety recall is expected to begin during January 2010. Owners may contact Mercedes-Benz at1-800-367-6372.



Even Ferrari isn't immune to recalls:
Ferrari is recalling certain model year 1995 through 1999 Ferrari 355 and 355 F1 vehicles. Independent automobile repair facilities may have improperly installed certain screw clamps that are located in close proximity to the fuel lines and that fasten the water sleeve to the thermostat connection. The improper installation of these screw clamps may damage the fuel supply pipes. Fluid could leak into the engine compartment, causing smoke and, in some circumstances, a fire, rendering the vehicle inoperable and possibly resulting in a crash. Dealers will install a new fuel divider block, which will serve to provide a greater distance between these screw clamps and the fuel lines. This will eliminate the possibility of any damage to the fuel supply pipes which could cause fluid leakage. This service will be performed free of charge. The recall is expected to begin during December 2009. Owners may contact Ferrari at 201-816- 2600.



Relatively, puts Toyota's issues in perspective (look at more months for others).
 

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definitely respect toyota for how they're handling it. they're even putting out commercials to explain everything. it does suck that other companies are taking advantage of the situation. i've had 7 cars three of which were toyotas (tc, xb, tacoma) and by far Toyota will always be number one in quality. Before I bought the box I purchased a 2008 dodge avenger. This thing was pure crap from the get go. I took it back literally 2 weeks after I bought it and was only offered half the purchase price (and that was with my $4k set of rims). Regardless of recalls I will never buy anything but Toyota or at the very least Japanese.
 

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Toyota's actual phrasing:
October (accelerator/floor mat issue):
Toyota is recalling certain model year 2004-2010 passenger vehicles. The accelerator pedal can get stuck in the wide open position due to its being trapped by an unsecured or incompatible driver's floor mat. A stuck open accelerator pedal may result in very high vehicle speeds and make it difficult to stop the vehicle, which could cause a crash, serious injury or death. Toyota will notify owners of affected vehicles to remove any driver's floor mat and not replace it with any other floor mat pending the development of model-specific remedies. Toyota will mail a second notification to owners of affected vehicles notifying them of the free remedy when it is available. The first notice was mailed on October 30, 2009 and Toyota will advise NHTSA an estimate of the date when the remedy parts will be available. Owners may contact Toyota at 1-800-331-4331, Lexus at 1-800-255-3987.

Toyota Tunda Crossmember, from November:
Toyota is recalling model year 2000-2003 Tundra vehicles originally sold in or currently registered in the following states: Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin and the District of Columbia. Excessive corrosion of the rear cross member may cause the separation of the spare tire stowed under the truck bed which would present a road hazard that could cause a crash. Also, corrosion of the rear cross member could affect the rear brake lines and the proportioning valve resulting in diminished braking capability. Separation of the spare tire and diminished brake capacity could increase the risk of a crash. Toyota is asking owners of the affected vehicles to remove the spare tire from under the vehicle until a remedy can be obtained. Dealers will inspect the rear cross member and related components, including the brake lines, and replace them if necessary. If the cross member does not need to be replaced, it will be sprayed with a corrosion protection compound. These services will be performed free of charge, however multiple visits to the dealer may be required. The safety recall is expected to begin on or before December 15, 2009. Owner may contact Toyota at 1-800-331-4331.

(January report not released yet . . . )


Released YESTERDAY:
Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
LEXUS / HS 2010
TOYOTA / PRIUS 2010
Manufacturer: TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. Mfr's Report Date: FEB 09, 2010
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 10V039000
N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, AIR:ANTILOCK:CONTROL UNIT/MODULE
Potential Number of Units Affected: 148549
Summary:
TOYOTA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010 TOYOTA PRIUS AND LEXUS HS250H PASSENGER VEHICLES. CUSTOMERS HAVE EXPERIENCED INCONSISTENT BRAKE FEEL AFTER ABS ACTUATION DURING SLOW AND STEADY APPLICATION OF THE BRAKES ON ROUGH OR SLICK ROAD SURFACES. STOPPING DISTANCES MAY BE INCREASED COMPARED WITH A CUSTOMER'S EXPECTATION FOR A GIVEN PEDAL FORCE.
Consequence:
VEHICLE STOPPING DISTANCES MAY INCREASE RELATIVE TO A CUSTOMER'S EXPECTATION INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REWRITE THE PROGRAMMING OF THE ABS CONTROL UNIT FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN LATE FEBRUARY AND BE COMPLETED IN LATE MARCH 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331 AND LEXUS AT 1-800-255-3987.
Notes:
OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .

Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
TOYOTA / CAMRY 2010
Manufacturer: TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. Mfr's Report Date: FEB 09, 2010
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 10V040000
N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
Potential Number of Units Affected: 7314
Summary:
TOYOTA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010 CAMRYS. THE LENGTH OF THE POWER STEERING PRESSURE HOSE ON VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH THE 4-CYLINDER (2AR-FE) ENGINE MAY BE INSUFFICIENT, SUCH THAT THE GAP BETWEEN THE CRIMP ON THE PRESSURE HOSE AND THE BRAKE TUBE FOR THE LEFT REAR BRAKE MAY BE INSUFFICIENT. UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES THE BRAKE TUBE MAY INTERFERE WITH THE CRIMP AND MAY WEAR AND THEN PERFORATE.
Consequence:
A BRAKE TUBE PERFORATION MAY RESULT IN BRAKE FLUID LEAKAGE. A LEAK IN BRAKE FLUID MAY IMPACT BRAKING PERFORMANCE INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy:
TOYOTA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND, IF NECESSARY, DEALERS WILL REPLACE OR ADJUST THE BRAKE TUBE FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING MARCH 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331.
Notes:
OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .



And the Vibe's recall for the pedal (made in parallel to Matrix):
Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
PONTIAC / VIBE 2009-2010
Manufacturer: GENERAL MOTORS CORP. Mfr's Report Date: JAN 27, 2010
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 10V024000
N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:ACCELERATOR PEDAL
Potential Number of Units Affected:
Summary:
GENERAL MOTORS IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2009-2010 PONTIAC VIBE PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL CAN GET STUCK IN THE WIDE OPEN POSITION DUE TO ITS BEING TRAPPED BY AN UNSECURED OR INCOMPATIBLE DRIVER'S FLOOR MAT.
Consequence:
A STUCK OPEN ACCELERATOR PEDAL MAY RESULT IN VERY HIGH VEHICLE SPEEDS AND MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO STOP THE VEHICLE, WHICH COULD CAUSE A CRASH, SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH.
Remedy:
GENERAL MOTORS WILL MODIFY OR REPLACE THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL AND THE FLOOR MAT WITH A NEWLY DESIGNED MAT FREE OF CHARGE. GENERAL MOTORS HAS NOT YET PROVIDED AN OWNER NOTIFICATION SCHEDULE. OWNERS MAY CONTACT PONTIAC AT 1-800-620-7668 OR AT THE OWNER CENTER AT WWW.GMOWNERCENTER.COM.
Notes:
OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .




Still, in comparison to EVERYONE show . . .
Toyota is better than par-for-the-course.
 

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Thanks for the research Tartanjack, great posts!!! I wish I was in the market for a new car cause I imagine the salesmen are getting hungry about now, which won't last long.
 

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I'm sure that because of shared components we will get some spill over items to keep an eye or ear on as the recalls and other items are discussed in the next few months.
But I,m not losing sleep over Toyota's disclosures. The media are in a feeding frenzy until the next big event.
However, I recall maybe a year or so ago some Toyota top dog complaining about quality control so they do have some internal issuses going on for some time.

As for me, I'm a 3 year lease, with option to buy or walk away. My intent was finish some projects that eats up extra cash and get the car account built back up., and see whats up then.

I am holding off the trailer wiring (again) to see what the up shoot of the electrical related problems may or not be with braking.
 

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Toyota will have quality issues from time to time since they out source parts. I noticed that my Scion's factory 16" alloy wheels are made in China!

Toyota has grown from the small production company of the 1960's to the giant it is today. You will stumble from time to time, nothing will have a perfect batting record.

I believe that some Toyota owners are over reacting this problem when the camera is recording them!
 

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Well I have a personal philosophy about stuff like this ' its not how the probleme came to be it's what you do about it that matters!' as far as I'm concerned this is my second toyota and I still believe in the brand heck my old tercel had 155000+ mi. and was still going strong! untill some ***hole backed into it when it was parked!
 

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now it looks like corollas have another recall coming from what i just saw on cnbc-

to allow this many recalls in such a short time give toyota the look of gmc or ford 20 years ago

anyone who drives a yoda has to be concerned right now-if your not you either dont like yourself or family much-

who would have ever thought that toyota would make so much garbage and allow us to drive and die in them
 

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Toyota is getting a ton of bad press, but don't think for second that GM and the others are not directly related to that press. When you are the new big kid on the block someone out there is going to want to bring you down. Like someone said, its what they do with it that matters. Remember Ford quickly got rid of Firestone tires some years ago from the tread seperation incidents and they recovered very well at the time and Explorers are still all the over the place.

I really didn't think it was the tires more than people didn't know how to handle a blow out. I had two blowouts on the freeway in my 02 Explorer and safely got slowed down and stopped. One of them was a tread seperation with Michelin tires. I had to unwrap it from the axel to get it off.

Just my two cents.
 

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I don't believe that GM,Ford or Chrysler have much to do with Toyota's press coverage. The media is all over this (as they should be) because this is big news when it comes to Toyota's quality.

Toyota will be knocked down just like other car companies before them.

No big deal!
 

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There is a big difference between you ac or heater working and your gas pedal sticking and causing you car to speed out of control with no way of stopping it. Most people in that situation wouldnt know what to do. This can really affect the well being of everyone on the road. It scares me with driving a XB. if toyota was cheap with gas pedal what else were they cheap with. This our life we are talking about a head on collision with a wall or the back of a car going 80 to 100 MPH can be fatal. Luckily i havnt heard of anyone dieing or anything bad like that.
 

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I hate to tell you this Lutheray but people have died. But people die every day in car crashes. Whether it was their fault or another divers fault or was a mechanical problem, accidents happen and sometimes people die. Did anyone see the woman who was testifying in front of the Senate who said she even put her car in reverse and it would not slow down. I didn't think you could even do that.
 

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Did anyone see the woman who was testifying in front of the Senate who said she even put her car in reverse and it would not slow down. I didn't think you could even do that.
Most, if not all automactic transmissions...while you can put the selector in "R" while moving forward, it will not engage the reverse function...in the event of unintended acceleration, the recommendations have all been...apply the brake and place the transmission in "N" until safely off the road...then shut down the engine.

(Not that this is a problem with the Scions!)

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Did anyone else get the change to hear Mr. Toyoda in front of the congressional hearing? His speech, esp. in light of the Japanese culture, was VERY impressive. If that is the same attitude the company takes and truly feels, I'm impressed.
He took PERSONAL responsibility as not being acceptable and vowed to fix the problems, in the strongest possible cultural language.
 
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