I have no idea what you're asking...
the amount of poke/flushness all depends on the offset. My offset on these is +40, pretty lame offset and very close to stock steelies. if I have a +0 offset I would poke, if I had a +15 or +20 offset Id prob be flush without spacers. Personally, I like poke, but I like my orange wheels more, so I deal with lame offset.